I mean, there must be someone who misses her. ), [–]ProgrammedToUpvote 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children). Source: Norwegian night receptionist working in oslo area. Look at the clothes she was found wearing. They're generally in a paper sleeve. I posted a very similar question just minutes after you. The coroner decided that this food had to have been eaten shortly before she died, which he meant was Saturday evening, it seems very odd to order food and eat it almost 24 hours later. [–]sobri909 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child). ", [–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (1 child). The rest of the photographs have a reddish hue to them as well. As well, how could she have been in cleaning if Jennifer apparently never left the room? The door was locked from the inside and both keycards were located in her room, which was one of the main reasons why the police concluded that she had taken her own life. The co-creator of Netflix’s Unsolved Mysteries Season 2, Terry Meurer, revealed some key points. I've not seen anyone mentioning the watch yet. The security manger also smelled a sour/foul smell when he opened the door, could this have been because her body had been there for almost 24 hours? I remember 'unisex' scents around this time had huge popularity, such as CK One, which came out in 1994. But if she was incredibly tidy as that one maid stated, I don't know they would wait to eat something like that. [–]LeiFengsEvilBrother 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (0 children), [–]Sausage_Wallet 67 points68 points69 points 3 years ago (12 children), [–]S3erverMonkey 32 points33 points34 points 3 years ago (4 children). Here's how it would've looked. I'm inclined to lean towards suicide here due to the still depressed trigger though, that seems really hard to pull off with someone else being the shooter. That's all I know. I think that clothes made by tailors might not have any tags at all. How would it be suicide if there was no blood or GSR on her hand? She goes to a random hotel to kill herself, using a false name and a fake guest so she can't be found by friends or family. Handwriting is very inconsistent, perhaps she was being pressured by something or someone. [–]lace_roses 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (2 children), but the article says there weren't any pants or skirts found in the room, and no panties except what she was wearing, I think this is good proof that there must've been someone else there at some point. during the nineties! She also told the police about a foreign couple that had peaked her interest. Jennifer Fairgate already dead when security guard knocks. [–]fabaresv 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (5 children). [–]Sausage_Wallet 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (1 child). [–]fabaresv 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children). Believing that two people are staying there, he walks back down to the reception, notifies his manager and calls the police. I kind of agree that this could be just another suicide case but if the woman has been gone for so long, wouldn't anybody of her friends/family look for her atleast? I've done it when I'm getting ready to go out, because I like to see how the outfit looks once the high heels are on - it's a bigger difference than when you wear flat shoes. Where did that go? Good job summarizing the case, but there are some things I find particularly interesting about this case that needs more attention, specifically the neighbors. Was the "sour smell" noted by the security officer due to body decomposition or something else? He quickly tried to place the gun before someone came inside. the difference is very obvious. (Even if 1995 was a quiet period. A little later, she (or someone else) must have left the room, because the card was used again at 00:21. Roxette was massively popular and Marie was a fashion icon through late 80s early 90s. While I don't have an explanation for the lack of GSR, I don't know if that can happen. The only other explanation to this I can think of to this is that maybe the receptionist made a bad joke. A friend of my mom works for VG and is actually in the team that are making a documentary on it now! I got most of my info from VG, but I don't have VG+ as I honestly don't read norwegian news sites that often. Secondly, the location of the spent shells and forehead wound are easiest accomplished if you fire with your thumb. • r/UnresolvedMysteries, http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MjkwWDUwMA==/z/DI4AAOSwDN1UNfCi/$_3.JPG?set_id=2, Here's a couple of more photos to make it clearer. Not sure if this is a tabloid. In the victim's room, room 2805 there was an issue of USA Today on the desk, the number written on its bag was 2816 and it had an unidentified fingerprint on it. One case that has particularly drawn viewers' attention from the new batch of episodes, however, is "Death in Oslo," the story of an unknown woman found dead in a Norway hotel room of a possible suicide. [–]LeiFengsEvilBrother 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children), Not telephone. "I stayed there from Friday until Saturday. [–]CosimaCoil 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children), I do. This is a really puzzling case, thank you for the writeup! maybe he didnt hear the first one, maybe only the second? This is coming from the POV of an American lesbian, however, so it's entirely possible that I'm projecting trends among the gay community here on to a different culture. Also, because it's a non-polymer, full-sized pistol, chambered in a relatively weak caliber, I don't put much stock in the lack of bruising from recoil. In the rush of doing this, he accidently hit her thumb to hard, wich cause a second shot to fire. Short hair was trendy on women in the 1980s and 90s. I'll drink diet when I've had one or two regular already. It is important to note such clutching of weapons because you can be sure that the person [–]kimberleygd 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children). [–]rhex1 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children). What if a hotel staff member was in on it? Especially considering Mr F's slip up, it would match the above, that she died on Friday night. [–]KingPepeTheChrist 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children). However, another receptionist is certain that she observed Jennifer standing in the reception area accompanied by a tall man between the age of 35 and 40 sometime during her stay. She had no ID, passport, wallet, and all her labels had been cut off her clothes – and no one reported her missing. Mr. F. Sounds like someone who doesn't want his name associated with this and has a faulty memory of what happened in 1995. [–]corvus_coraxxx 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (2 children). ), [–]qualis-libet 21 points22 points23 points 3 years ago* (1 child). As murder is more plausible, I'll give you a theory on that as well. I saw a picture of one on the carpet, but without any clue as to where it was in relation to the body. Scent is one of our biggest emotional reminders of persons and events. I personally went through a phase of wearing men's cologne because I hated the simple floral notes in most of the stuff marketed to women/girls then. It was not uncommon in Scandinavia in the 90s. Unsolved Mysteries is back on Netflix for Volume 2, six new cases ready for intrepid true crime fans to try and solve. It would be quite sad if she died by her own hand or another's and nobody bothered to report her missing. Suddenly hotel security knocks on the door. The system can tell if the message has been read, but not who read it. Already by 5 am the next morning, they called it a day and handed the room back to the hotel. [–]Norwegosaurus 292 points293 points294 points 3 years ago* (18 children). Her only personal belonging was a man's perfume (Ungaro Pour L’Homme 1. I always assumed that real spies and assassins wouldn't look like the ones we see in movies. This was a very interesting read, but its pretty obvious this is a suicide. Tried first with a pillow over her head, missed, placed the pillow on the bed then fired a second time. The 2007 Disappearance of Jeramy Burt from Boise, ID. Both the housekeepers and room service observed a single duvet on her bed. Numerous theories about Jennifer were being considered by the investigators at the time, including her being part of a failed drug operation, working for a secret intelligence agency, being a high-class escort or even the missing wife of Italian mobster Leoluca Bagarella. Especially that macaroni salad. (self.JenniferFairgate), submitted 1 month ago by whatswiththeseh0mies, Lois or Jennifer? I have a feeling that Mr. F is involved somehow. I'm having a hard time finding any stats specific to German-speaking countries, but given the etymology of the name, I doubt it. This is the last time "Jennifer" is seen alive. I figured 'lost in translation' was the most likely answer. I think almost everyone takes their shoes off as soon as they enter their hotel room, but it's even weirder to have your shoes on if you're going to commit suicide. It's not unheard of, though it's more common with long guns (see Kurt Cobain for one example). That might have been really useful information. But I had a good night's sleep and knew nothing.". Kind of hard to shoot a gun without getting it all over your hand, unless you're wearing gloves. [–]ProgrammedToUpvote 17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago (0 children). Disclaimer: American teen in 1995 who still hates floral perfume, [–]dothack_bi 50 points51 points52 points 3 years ago (4 children). [–]techflo 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (2 children), Hardly. Reddit is a network of communities based on people's interests. I kinda focused on the in-out part of the case and the hotel stuff because I know it, but by the end I had to get work done and stop typing for a minute. Her real identity remains unknown. Maybe, maybe not. [–]Cuillereasoupe 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child). r/JenniferFairgate Lounge (self.JenniferFairgate), submitted 3 months ago by jrl303 - announcement, Season 1 & 2 subs (self.JenniferFairgate), What if a hotel staff member was in on it? It seems there could have been foul play, but I think more points to a suicide. Her real identity remains unknown. I wouldn't say that people who drink coke absolutely refuse to touch diet coke (and vice-versa), but it's still odd. I think that's probably the reason why there's still an active investigation. Another guest claimed to have been woken up at night by loud banging noises coming from one of the nearby rooms. I wonder if this is a popular cover since Belgium's population is split along language lines, so it'd be less likely for someone to catch you in a lie based on your accent or fluency (i.e., if you're talking to someone who speaks French and yours isn't perfect, play it off like your native language is Dutch and vice versa). Room 2807 - resided by Ruth and Werner Zobrist: Did not observe anything worth reporting. (self.JenniferFairgate), Security & gunshot (self.JenniferFairgate), Analysis of the ammunition (self.JenniferFairgate), Why I think it was most likely suicide... (self.JenniferFairgate), The Plaza Woman/Jennifer Fairgate/Fergate- who are you? [–]iamthejury 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (4 children). No sex trafficking, no murder. [–]mrsecret77 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children). Respectfully, I don't believe what you're seeing is blood. Who massacred four elderly residents of Raccoon Bend, Texas, in 1996? she looks much like Angela Bradley who dissapeared in England january of 1995. https://www.google.no/search?q=angela+bradley+missing&tbm=isch&imgil=A7D1dQ1uUDSqnM%253A%253BJ1lF2nUsl-KBTM%253Bhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.gloucestershire.police.uk%25252Fnews-room%25252Flatest-news%25252Fpolice-re-launch-appeal-to-find-missing-woman-angela-bradley-21-years-after-her-disappearance%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=A7D1dQ1uUDSqnM%253A%252CJ1lF2nUsl-KBTM%252C_&usg=__Wiu3G7kShbTVaOUqQo-WYh0UUxA%3D&biw=1920&bih=1094&ved=0ahUKEwjl3rHkqqvUAhUoIpoKHc8eB8sQyjcISQ&ei=v7s3WaWDFajE6ATPvZzYDA#imgrc=A7D1dQ1uUDSqnM: [–][deleted] 39 points40 points41 points 3 years ago* (34 children). At about 7:50 p.m. that day, Espen Næss, the hotel security, knocks on the door. [–]fabaresv 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (5 children). surely it'd still end up on the hand though? [–]jayne-eerie 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (3 children). A hotel employee saw her go into the room and just afterwards hang a "Do not disturb" sign on the door. If somebody does go looking they will only be looking for one person, not two. Could be absolutely nothing, or it could indicate another person. Details: At 10:44PM on Wednesday, May 31, 1995, … In the photo of the gun in her hand, it definitely looks as if someone else placed the gun in her hand after her death. She is clearly European, as her 1s and 7s are done in the European style. All the clues about who 'Jennifer Fairgate' from 'Unsolved Mysteries' is "Unsolved Mysteries" dedicated its "Death in Oslo" episode to a woman know as Jennifer Fairgate found dead in a hotel—but the Netflix show is not the first investigation of the case to find clues. No such trolley was found afterwards. Normally something like that is easy to dismiss because people get their dates mixed up, but the fact he was checking out when this conversation supposedly take place can eliminate that. The gun related aspects seem like a combination of inexperience and testing it out. [–]KingPepeTheChrist 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children). Verdens Gang (VG) and Dagbladet (DB) are not typical tabloid newspapers, and they have a good reputation so the information in them is credible in my opinion. Why would he do that? I also saw another post about night shifts and spooky occurrences, so reddit hasn't let me down tonight. I'm very tired now, so sorry if I don't make any sense, but wouldn't the exit wound be at the back of her head, that is, towards the pillow down on the bed? Maybe leftovers from the food she ordered? Those systems were pretty common in Europe back then. Yeah, when I hear tabloid I think the Daily Mail, the Sun Herald, the Tele etc. (Geberth, Practical Homicide Investigation), [–]PurePerfection_ 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children). The keycard is not necessary to get out of a room, but you have to use it to get in. The evidence for her using her thumb is twofold from what I gather. Indeed, hopefully Interpol is able to identify him and get some answers. Short black hair (possibly dyed), blue eyes. [–]Yaeltwom 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (2 children). That's a Browning Hi-Power which is a full-sized (longer barrel length) pistol and less likely to transfer GSR, especially if she was holding it in such a way that she depressed the trigger with her thumb. I'm also currently employed by a large hotel chain in Norway and my hotel is located in the outskirt of Oslo. [–]Quietuus 45 points46 points47 points 3 years ago (3 children). Of course there are some interesting aspects, but mostly it is easy to explain away. I'm with you, OP. Also when I googled this I found next to nothing on it which it being the 1990s that's probably the answer to that..keep us posted...this is a truly fascinating case. She decides to use her thumb with a pillow over her head and the awkward grip and heavy trigger pull causes her to "pull" the round, missing her head. need to be investigated. Doesn't look like she's used to signing this name. Proceed to situate the crime scene so it seems they were never there. The pillow was then laid down blood side up and the spatter covered it up. Unless, I suppose, that misunderstanding had been made previously and stuck in her mind as a easy to remember future alias... [–]FortBraggRatPatrol[S] 26 points27 points28 points 3 years ago (2 children). I am also very fascinated about that. Unsolved Mysteries episode titled “Missing Witness” has sparked multiple wild fan theories on Reddit. I also like to take a few minutes to adjust to walking around in them. On her check-in form, she claimed to live on a street called Rue de la Stehde in the village of Verlaine, Belgium. No gunshot residue, a firearm in a hand. i adopted the tailed 1 and crossed 7 from my german relatives when i was just a kid, but my handwriting is still distinctively american. When you say 'locked,' you mean the latch image was turned? [–]VGTVno 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (0 children), We now have translated the whole story to English, as well as the documentary. I would assume it to be around the time the gunshot was heard to go off as it isn't listed as a contradictory element. I actually tried researching it a little bit, but scarcity of news reports and the language barrier made it damned near impossible. Created Oct 20, 2020. I work in Norway now and I speak Norwegian on a medium level so it's nice to read the information in English as well. But then the hotel should have had it on file? Wasn't the gun found still in her hand with the trigger depressed? Thanks for the clarification though, I can edit it in :), [–]VGTVno 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (2 children), The whole story, as well as the documentary, has now been translated to English. The 1s are distinctively European, I've never seen 1s like that in NA unless it's a European immigrant. The name "Jennifer Fairgate" does not seem to appear much on Google at all, but it sounds so normal? These facts possibly indicate foul-play. She did not show any passport or other form of ID and asked to pay for her stay in cash, but the only time she actually paid for anything was when she gave an extra large tip for her food service (50 kroner, approx. I see similarities in the brows, chin and eyes (but I haven't yet sought to compare things like height). Could they have killed her for some reason (maybe some type of espionage) and then walked right across the hall to their room. I've stayed at thousands of hotels, so to me this wasn't anything spectacular. Would be nice to have more details on that. http://www.vg.no/spesial/2017/plaza-english/, An overview of the neighboring rooms and who lived there, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunshot_residue, Here's an article from another Norwegian newspaper, Dagbladet, http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/spor-etter-mystisk-kvinne-kastet-i-sopla/62942977, In 1995, "Jennifer Fergate" was found dead in her hotel room in Oslo, Norway. I'm aware Acerbis is a different name. and join one of thousands of communities. Whilst indeed being a tabloid paper, their reputation regarding investigating journalism is rather good and they've been provided with lots of information by the police in this case. The gun is covered in blood, but there's no blood on her hand at all. Just recently Oslo police sent a request to Interpol to try to indetify the fingerprint, but no news of this yet. [–]cdesmoulins 59 points60 points61 points 3 years ago (11 children). Most likely not a suicide.. If this is added to the fact that she ordered room service on Friday night, and the food was unfinished and undigested, I think hints at the fact that she died on Friday night. Because the actual shooting itself looks staged, and invalidates the suicide conclusion. Could a person have exited the room through the window? Several other people mentioned that the lack of GSR could have been due to her using her thumb, so that would clear things up a little if we knew. She dressed in a sleek black outfit, with severe looking cropped black hair, such that she looked like almost a caricature of a spy / assassin. The door was not opened again until next morning at 08:50, neither by employees nor guests, which means Jennifer left the room once between 08:34 and 12:44 on Thursday, and didn't return until 08:50 the next day. This honestly seems just like a suicide to me. Certainly don't look like accidental markings, must've meant something. Somehow knowing the detail of the perfume she may have worn is so visceral, in a different way than you usually get with these cases. hahaha. Was Jennifer a common name for a woman that age in German-speaking countries at that time? Or perhaps this is all just the product of letting one's imagination run wild, … The food for one is an interesting detail. It just seems too ... obvious? [–]majorthrownaway 41 points42 points43 points 3 years ago (0 children), [–]LeiFengsEvilBrother 27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago (3 children), The circumstances make me suspect some kind of espionage or intelligence agency involvement. It s legal to carry a piston in Oslo in 1990s? Gunpowder doesn't have a "sour" smell to me at all. I wonder if they would all match up, or help make sense of this. There is a motorcycle parts dealership called Acerbis in Hasselt, Belgium, which is about 40 minutes from Verlaine. And then either the lover murdered her and snuck out while the room was left unguarded before the police got there, or the lover never showed up and "Jennifer" killed herself in despair. Sharp and metallic perhaps, but that could very well be due to translation or differences in firearm familiarity. Online. You did a great job man, there's way too much information about this case to cover it all, but I saw people were mostly missing this and I thought it was important. I however have my personal doubts that this is actually related to the case as you can see room 2818 is pretty far from 2805. In 1995, "Jennifer Fergate" was found dead in her hotel room in Oslo, Norway. I have been extra jumpy all night though, so the security guy had some fun trying to scare me, [–]mrsecret77 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (6 children), You should check out the mini-series The Night Manager, [–]Norwegosaurus 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child). Didn't take any fingerprints from the key cards? and the pillow all suggest to me a second person was there. Jennifer Fergate). Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit: If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads. [–]FortBraggRatPatrol[S] 58 points59 points60 points 3 years ago (42 children), [–]Tintinabulation 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (12 children). It was 2 shots fired in totat. [–]PurePerfection_ 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children). I also might put them on if I were expecting a guest and was making an effort with my appearance as a result. In Norwegian, well at least in the dialect I speak, that doesn't translate literally like that. One more thing are we sure the soda was from the mini bar and not ordered from room service. VG actually made a digital 3D recreation of the crime scene in their article. help Reddit App Reddit coins Reddit premium Reddit gifts. I had a german teacher in 3rd grade and I just liked the way it looked so I adopted it. I still don't see anything suspicious about this. [–]FortBraggRatPatrol[S] 48 points49 points50 points 3 years ago* (1 child). I lived close by that hotel at the time. [–]FroopOG 91 points92 points93 points 3 years ago (7 children). [–]cdesmoulins 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (3 children), That makes me wonder even more about the removed tags in her clothing -- she sounds like quite a woman and I'd love to see this case solved so we can find out what her story was. This includes the second comforter as the police never filed it as evidence. The door was locked from the inside and the keycards used to open it was left inside. The Israeli prime minister was assassinated later that year in 95. Does anyone have any information on where the expelled casings were found? The housekeeper noted that they belonged to a brand she'd never heard of at the time. He could have seen it on the news later, realized he had been their prior, and conflated the story. 'Unsolved Mysteries' features the Oslo Plaza mystery of Jennifer Fairgate. She might have just been trying to conceal her identity to protect her family or because of her past. Add to that the lack of a scream and the door being locked from the inside and it is getting more difficult to work out how this could have been done. (What was she wearing when she arrived? Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. I think it's likely that he either misremembered the day he checked out or heard about the story on the news later and mixed it up in his head. The more I think about this the weirder it becomes. The fact that another guest says that he was informed at reception that the woman across the hall was found dead hours before she was is the craziest aspect here. Also, given her size (5'2") and the insane thickness of hotel pillows, if she tried with a pillow over her head she may have had to reverse the grip to reach her forehead. It really has that almost textbook spy movie style look about it of "victim's hand placed on the gun after being shot". Real Name: Unknown Nicknames: Jennifer Fergate, Jennifer Fairgate Location: Oslo, Norway Date: June 3, 1995 Occupation: Unknown Date of Birth: 1960-1974 (approx.) [–]Norwegosaurus 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (5 children). [–]oceanic231 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children). Perpetrator shoots her and starts cleaning evidence. [–]silveredfoxen 50 points51 points52 points 3 years ago (6 children). Help solve the cold case murder of Wilma June Nissen! The clothes she was wearing seemed relatively smart, mostly if not all black - perhaps she thought it would be a good outfit to be buried in? She Died By Suicide. The way she was holding the gun, the back of her hand would be facing away from the wound. [–]bloodjanitor 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (6 children). On May 31, 1995, at 10.44 p.m, a woman named Jennifer Fairgate (signature says Fergate) checked in to room 2805 at the Oslo Plaza Hotel in Norway. 1s aren't much different, except mine are more exact with the 1 shape only adding a _ under it. [–]fabaresv 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children). Her death was ruled a suicide but due to recent developments, the question of whether she actually shot the gun has been reexamined. [–]deadcyclo 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (2 children), [–]FortBraggRatPatrol[S] 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children). This was four years after the Soviet Union collapse, and it was a super quiet period regarding espionage. [–]sobri909 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (2 children). I think she tried first with the pillow over her head and missed narrowly. [–]Quietuus 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children). She finally decided to do it, and went through with it.
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