After all, it wouldn't do to have a no-name character with little to no character development being touted as one of the most powerful pirates at the current time period. I don't think those panels you posted Soca answer the question why Kuma would want Luffy to the Isle of Women. What do you think? He would have died during the bathroom seen when Boa Hancock was bathing. I don't think those panels you posted Soca answer the question why Kuma would want Luffy to the Isle of Women. Plus he had 300 million bounty and no ship or crew and he just pissed off the Celestial Dragons. One Piece Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. In Grove 41, Duval and his Rosy Life Riders, despite worrying about the Straw Hats, decide to watch over the Thousand Sunny until it can be coated so it can travel to Fish-Man Island. He's even dressed like a superhero and kind of acts like one. Or one man, really. He sent him there because he knew he could get her on his side. The Kuja Tribe is well known for their use of Haki, so perhaps Kuma thought Luffy would perhaps learn more about that. Granted, this took place before Luffy had amassed his ragtag team of misfits, but still, I don't think it's too far of a stretch to say Kuma had at least an idea that Luffy would be able to make the best of any situation. Would've posted it earlier but I was on my phone. Boa's would be the absolute last place they'd look because the world knows she hates men with no remorse. Press J to jump to the feed. if you think about it everyone went to a perfect island for them -hardest one to understand is maybe brook, but I can see why he was sent there- except Luffy. Having been hit by Kuma, Luffy is teleported to an unknown island. Considering kuma was dragons subordinate, he may know some similarities with luffy, such as both are charismatic leaders, stubborns, CANT FALL IN LOVE WITH ANY WOMEN… Now being a shichibukai, kuma definitely know hancocks power, and put two and two together, he might thought at that time luffy would not get affected by the mero mero no mi…, And if it does affects him, like many of u guys have said, kuma prob knew rayleighs and hancocks relationship, so he might want hancock to petrify luffy to save himself from going to and dying in marineford, and de-petrify him wen rayleigh goes to meet hancock…, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. would have trouble finding him there. maybe he thought luffy needs some more education in some things :D. I thought it was b/c Amazon Lily is close to Impel Down. He could've just sent him to Dragon. After a bit of discussion with Hannyabal, he accepts her proposal of seeing Fire Fist Ace, to … He also has a scar over his right eye, which he has had for many years.The Dark King chooses to dress quite simply, usually just in a nearly plain t-shirt, shorts, and sandals. Like you said he choose the perfect place for each of the Strawhats. Luffy openly harmed a Celestial Dragons, and perhaps Kuma knew Hancock and her sisters would perhaps help him out for that. How would you like it if you were desperately avoiding your son just for your friend to drop his ass on your doorstep? Luffy was separated from his crew by Bartholomew Kuma, and he was sent to Amazon Lily. He interacted with Luffy enough to know how much of a selfless man he is and that he'd be the only one to break Boas armor and get her to help him. As of now, we don't know anything about Hercules, but lets look at what the situation was: Kuma sent Usopp to an island where the only resident was a powerful warrior who was very willing to train anyone else who valued being a warrior. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. In Grove 41, Duval and his Rosy Life Riders, despite worrying about the Straw Hats, decide to watch over the Thousand Sunny until it can be coated so it can travel to Fishman Island. And...Kuma was somewhat successful since Luffy first awakened his King's Haki here. Oh yea and this was technically already answered. At Shakky's house, Keimi is also worried about the Straw Hats, though Pappug and Hatchan think … Seems like the second reason aligns more with how he scattered the other strawhats but maybe he knew more about Luffy's personality and the Ace situation than at first glance. I'd go with option 3. The architecture and decor of the village resemble that of ancient China. The first time it was seen being used and referred to as Haki was during Luffy's battle on Amazon Lily with the Boa Sisters. Even during the arc that will not be named, the marines were treating Luffy and Boa's interactions as hostile, they didn't know Boa was loving every moment of Luffy being near her. Luffy had a great time in amazon Lilly only because Hancock fell in love with him, and I'm sure even Kuma couldn't expect that. Kuma didn't send Luffy to Amazon Lily because he told Rayleigh where he could find him, Kuma told Rayleigh where he could find him because he sent Luffy to Amazon Lily. Help us expand our database by adding one. Imagine the Strawhats taking one serious beating after another, they're are on the brink of exhaustion and barely a step away from complete disaster when a reinvigorating rendition of Ride of the Valkyries starts playing. That.....would be pretty fucked up if Ivankoff did not tell Luffy she/he is the Mother.....no wait. In Grove 1, at the auction house, Saint Shalulia is complaining to the marines about their lack of seriousness towards the Straw Hat Pirates and also why they haven't been captured yet. and that would be the first place the WG would try to look if there was a manhunt on him. Amazon Lily is a jungle island located within the Calm Belt. One could say he was sent there because haki was common there and Luffy could really learn some haki at the time but don't forget that men are not allowed on the island. Luffy, after causing mayhem, was eventually captured upon meeting Hancock after falling into her personal bathhouse whilst she was bathing. I believe it's because he saw what power Luffy could possess and hadn't found yet. I think maybe Kuma sent Luffy to the Kuja Tribe for a couple or reasons. He probably sent Luffy to the place with the best chance of getting him to Marineford, it just so happens that the chance was really small. He learned nothing about haki there though. Also, the residents are highly hostile to Men, giving Luffy yet more chances to learn. Did he know Luffy would be the one man on earth to win Hancock over and use her to get into Impel Down? If the point was just to hide Luffy, all those other places where the Strawhats were sent were free from the WG as well. 6 Devil Fruit Beat Haki: Luffy Vs. Boa Sandersonia Not convinced by this, both Robin and Rouge had put it upon themselves to navigate Luffy through the Calm belt in order to get Rouge to Sabaody before heading towards Amazon Lily. He rocked the house in front of thousands of fans so he could lend harmonic aid to his nakama later on the battlefield on Fishman Island. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Boa Hancock – we all know that Luffy became close to Pirate Empress Hancock when Kuma sent him to the amazon lily and Hancock helped Luffy to infiltrate the Impel Down and she stopped Smoker attacking Luffy in Marineford war and of course her charm is not working to Luffy and at the end she fell in love to Luffy. At Amazon Lily, Luffy came to know about Ace's execution, only one thought came to his mind, and that was to save Ace. If you want discussion, please sort the subreddit by New. YOHOHOHOHOHO!! JAWBONE ACCORDION!!! Later, Rayleigh explained Haki to Luffy and confirmed that "Mantra" is the Skypiean name for the ability. The point in the various selections of islands the Strawhats were sent, was to help them grow. Luffy had a great time in amazon Lilly only because Hancock fell in love with him, and I'm sure even Kuma couldn't expect that. She hates them with a raging passion, which kickset off her raging hatred of men (or accelerated any dislike for men that Amazon Lily instills in its young girls), and for a man to forcefully defy anther horrible man like that, Hancock would no doubt see the value of some men. kuma is said to have been a very kind person back when he was still fully human...maybe he felt sorry for his fellow shichibukai who obviously has issues and was guaranteed to remain forever miserable before she met luffy. He was talking about haki at that moment already (could've been a translation error) but since then I think that powerful people can estimate the power of other people. Perhaps Kuma figured "This will either kill them, or make them inconceivably strong" when he sent them off, Usopp for example had a pretty low survival chance, but he was going to come out of it incredibly strong if he came out at all. If Dragon followed Luffy's childhood or is similar to him, he should know Luffy would want to save Ace. Please R&R. It's just what I think, but you can see that if it was true, it can be assumed Kuma has WAY more intricate knowledge of the crew then we might realize :p. Idk what all of you people are babbling about. Kuma seems like a man with a plan and I don't think he will risk Luffy's life just like that. Kuma's an ass but he's not that big of an ass. by | Jan 24, 2021 | News | 0 comments | Jan 24, 2021 | News | 0 comments i mean, he send everybody to places where their skills would bloom, it would be weird if he sent Luffy only to get the heart of some wench. He could've just sent him to Dragon. RELATED: One Piece: 10 Characters You Didn't Know Boa Hancock Could Defeat The marines knew each of their strengths and the destinations fit them perfectly. Luffy was … BONE PIANO!! The focal point of the island is a large mountain situated in the center. I always figured it was because almost everyone there new haki and since it's an island only for women he'd be forced to battle. Usopp's destination would clearly made him stronger, but it had very high chance of killing him. You know what that means though, right? There are some varieties– called changeable water lilies – that change their color over their bloom period (of three to four days). The island is ruled by one of the Seven Warlords, Boa Hancock, and her sisters, all of whom hate men. Boa Hancock is the leader of the Kuja warriors from Amazon Lily and she served as one of the Shichibukai until recently. In manga, they met in episode 416-230. Welcome to r/OnePiece, the community for Eiichiro Oda's manga and anime series One Piece. Hiding him where the government least suspects. :P. I think every island was a gamble to some degree. I think it mainly had to do with the fact that Amazon Lily is just so damn hard to get to, so the Gov. He was sent to a bunch of devil worshippers. Men fueled her raging hatred for them, so it only makes sense for a good man (and Kuma's well aware of Luffy's personality and disposition) to undo some of the hurt that was inflicted on Hancock and her sisters, and restore her faith in malekind in at least one man. If we're looking at it from an out-of-universe, story-telling device to further said story, it was to introduce Boa Hancock and further the introductions of the powerful Shichibukai, setting it up so that all of them had been introduced and the audience would be aware of their presence before the great war would break out. Kuma might also have had a clue about the island where Luffy/Rayleigh trained. It is also seen that she vows to show them hell on Earth. RELATED: One Piece: 5 Reasons Why Paramecia Devil Fruits Are Better Than Zoans (& 5 Why Zoans Are Better) With the Haki of the Kuja tribe, Hancock was able to stop Smoker in his paths effortlessly, as expected of the Pirate Empress of Amazon Lily and someone much stronger than Smoker at the time. The Saboady concert finale showed him completing this training, playing his music in front of a big crowd. From the East Blue to the New World, anything related to the world of One Piece belongs here! SKULL MARACAS! This one is kind of a long shot but plausible: Since Kuma is/was a member of the Revolutionary Army, he might've had knowledge of Rayleigh helping out the Hancock sisters, which was why Kuma went to Rayleigh to tell him where he sent the crew. One could say he was sent there because haki was common there and Luffy could really learn some haki at the time but don't forget that men are not allowed on the island. Rayleigh gives back Luffy's straw hat and befriends the Snake Princess and her sisters. Maybe he knew Luffy will manage there despite the no men rule? You are using an out of date browser. Kuma obviously had no problem with that as Usopp was sent to an island where the island itself was fighting against him anyways. Due to the island's location, there is no wind or storm ever on Amazon Lily. Will he Marry Boa Hancock? I think we have to look at this from the perspective of taking place in the One Piece universe. I don't think Chopper ended up on an island with a large library of botanical and medical knowledge simply because he was an animal. I'm still sad Usopp wasn't sent to sharpshooter island.. (his power cannot send people into their hearts!). :). Kuma told Rayleigh where he could find him. Hope that helped. At Shakky's house, Camie is also worried about the Straw Hats, though Pappag and Hatchan thin… Performance & security by Cloudflare, Please complete the security check to access. Yes…but he wasn’t really good at using it. Brook wasn’t sent to the Long Arm tribe initially iirc. For in-universe reasons, I'm of the opinion Kuma bet on Luffy learning Haki, and Hancock becoming his ally once she figured out what Luffy did to the Tenryuubito who enslaved, tortured, and forced her to eat the Mero Mero no Mi. Same way he predicted that the other crew members would make it out of their trials with the people they met because half of them were in super risky places with hostile people. Remember when Blackbeard raged about Luffy lyingto him about his bounty. Haki on Amazon Lily is a matter of fact, and if Luffy was to learn Haki, that was one hell of a place to see it in action. With some help from Boa Hancock, Luffy successfully invaded Impel Down. maybe it was more about hammock than luffy. Kuma knew that Luffy would want to save Ace. Brook's as well was meant as easy root back with no obvious training, perhaps he was meant to fight the Long Arm tribe. So why didn't he just send him to Dragon? It's purely a wording problem, but it changes the argument. At Shakky's house, Camie is also worried about the Stra… I. Amazon Lily Theory. With one of the most mentally broken women all of one piece. Or did he send him there to learn haki and wait for Rayleigh to arrive? Kuma sent all the SHs to their specific destinations for a reason, and he sent Luffy to an island where EVERYBODY knows Haki. But it is pretty funny to see sanjis reaction alone. The old lady, and for who said that she must have been better well he needs to think again cuz she was shown in one episode when the Amazon Queen talked on her child hood and she got kidnaped and believe me she was ugly as ever. You must log in or register to reply here. The arc spanned 33 episodes and ran from episode 457 to 489. Kuma knew Ace was set to die, and its possible he knew of the brotherly relationship. The obvious reason is that he wanted Luffy to learn Haki. Kuma was trying to be Laughy-samas wingman. To know existence of Haki? Within the center of the mountain is a deep valley where the Kuja tribe village is located. Obviously, Kuma's just being a bro and trying to get luffy sum dat Hancock ass. Naurto spoiler Cause that would totally blow. So what I want to say is that Luffy’s mother is from Amazon Lily and her name is Lily and the reason for joining the revolutionary army is because of Hanckok and her sisters so she wanted revenge for the celestial dragons. Do you think Kuma could predict Hancock's love? what episode does luffy use haki in amazon lily. In Grove 1, at the auction house, Saint Shalria is complaining to the marines about their lack of seriousness towards the Straw Hat Pirates and also why they haven't been captured yet. I've got a problem with the wording of your first point. He thought it should have been way higher. [286] Luffy also bears a grudge on Sanji's behalf, as he disregards all but one of Sanji's family members because of how cruelly they treat him. If the point was just to hide Luffy, all those other places where the Strawhats were sent were free from the WG as well. Maybe that was supposed to help him develop his soul powers. When Mihawk comments on Luffy's "true" strength, I think we can assume that other people may have realized it as well. However, Rayleigh cannot bring Luffy back to the Sabaody Archipelago, as he would suffer the same fate on the island. Luffy is someone who desires true freedom. Well Ace was getting executed and Amazon Lily is close to ID. I don't think those panels you posted Soca answer the question why Kuma would want Luffy to the Isle of Women. Uhm, he knew about Boa Hancock's connection with Rayleigh. JavaScript is disabled. It is also seen that she vows to show them hell on Earth. 1, 2, and 4 just seem like stretches to me. If you've just set sail with the Straw Hat Pirates, be wary of spoilers on this subreddit! Luffy's, as you surmised, is the riskiest gamble. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. One Piece Amazon Lily Arc (Episodes 408-421) The Amazon Lily Arc is the 20th Arc in One Piece and the 2nd in the Summit War Saga. Brook was given an opportunity to get in touch with his music and also, to a less obvious extent, his Devil Fruit powers. On a side note I'm looking forward to seeing if and when Brook unveils his battle hymn. At Amazon Lily, Luffy came to know about Ace's execution, only one thought came to his mind, and that was to save Ace. So did he for Luffy. We know Kuma sent each straw hat to a fitting island- Nami to a weather research island, zoro to mihawk's home, etc. Hancock would've been inconceivably boring if she solely showed up once the war started and she got as few panels as she did; she wouldn't seem to be as interesting or complex a character as she is without the build up the Amazon Lily arc provided for her (I'm a huge Hancock fan, she's my fave Shichibukai and probably fave character in OP). Chopper was known as a pet, so his destination was probably based off of him talking to animals, meant to give him an easy way back to the crew (he made it part way back before getting the message). Rayleigh tells Hancock that Kuma he would send Luffy to Amazon Lily just before he teleported the Straw Hat crew away. I just said slept with him..... Because he knew Hancock and thought she'd be less bitchy if she got some D ? For fun, I just wanted to point out that in Usopp's case, maybe we shouldn't look at the Island he was sent to, but the person that was on the island. Puro Golf. It is carved with gigantic curved snake statues and the name of the native tribe of the island, Kuja, engraved in Kanji. I want to see everyone reaction when find out that boa hancock in love with luffy and I want to see what boa hancock will do when see Nami and Nicol. Welcome to the forums! The All-Female Island, Amazon Lily. The point in the various selections of islands the Strawhats were sent, was to help them grow. Sanji, Nami, Franky, Zoro and Robin were the only crew mates whose training had a good chance of occurring. edit: Meant to add he spent his training time looking at ways to combine the effects of his musical aptitude with that of his Devil Powers, at least that's what I got from it. It'd be easier to send him to Amazon Lily that doesn't have any marines or WG agents. The two first met when Luffy arrived on her island, Amazon Lily, after being sent there by Bartholomew Kuma. Twisted man that Dragon. First luffy's mom is not Amazon lily The former Queen. It was when the team was defeated singlehandedly by Bartolomew Kuma and they were sent in different locations. Amazon lily was the last place the Marines would check as the women there would never allow a man to stay there. Take a second to look at our. After his defeat against the Warlord, Bartholomew Kuma, Luffy is sent to Amazon Lily, an island where only womens are authorized to live. Summary- After getting sent flying by Kuma, Luffy and Blizzard wind up on Amazon Lily, the Island of Maidens in the Calm Belt.